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  • What glue do you use?

    I think this is the most appropriate first thread for the forum since this is hands down the question I am asked most. I use a product called Saregum, which I get from Mando in Paris. It is a water based contact glue and if you're pretty quick rinsing it with soapy water after use, you can use the brush again and again. What I love most about this glue is that its dries fairly quickly, doesn't smell and even though it adheres really well, if you absolutely need to "unglue" something, you can.

  • #2
    Same. I tried solvent based first, didn’t like the smell, then I used renia aquilim (315, 325) for a year or two, it was fine, but after trying Saregum I don’t want to come back to anything else. It works perfect. I use silicon paddle brushes and I don’t need to wash them, just pull glue out when it dries or wash with the warm water.

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    • #3
      do you have a pic of the silicon paddle brushes you use? Ive found that brushes with smooth nylon bristles clean out much easier than brushes with more natural bristles. A lot of people use glue spreaders or spatulas but i never got used to using that.

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      • #4
        I use the orange brush, comes in 3 sizes.

        https://www.princetonbrush.com/catal...-paint-blades/

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        • PeterNitz
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          Those look really cool. I'm gonna test them out. thanks!

      • #5
        Have you ever had an issue with the Saregum going bad like the formation of mold in the pot? I ordered some from Rocky Mountain Leather Supply but I have not had a chance to really use it yet. I was worried that it has a short self life. Any experience with this issue?

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        • AlineSeiler
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          Hey, I have had some issues with opening a product and then not really using it. Some of the products like edge paint have a short shelf life which makes it harder for hobby craftsmen to make the most of it. Never experienced this with glue though!

        • PeterNitz
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          I one time had a problem with mold forming in the Saregum container but i think it was just random. I just cleaned out the jar and refilled it and didn't have a problem again. . I have had probably 7, 10 liter containers over the years and they stay good FOREVER. You can also just add a little water to your jar if you think the glue is getting too thick from being open while working.

      • #6
        Hi Everyone,

        I use the same glue because you recommended it to me Peter! 😊 But I also use the one from Renia called Aquilim I find that they both tend to work similarly but the saregum is a little more watery which I prefer.
        I also use a silicone brush: https://www.boesner.com/mobile/shop/...0Silikonpinsel
        This way you can let the glue dry on the brush and just pill it off when dry!

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        • PeterNitz
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          Those look great!!! looks like you can spread it on really thin.

        • AlineSeiler
          AlineSeiler commented
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          Yes you can spread the glue very thin and even with those brushes. Let me know if you would like to try them. I’m not sure if they ship from Germany to Switzerland but I can hook you up! :-)

      • #7
        Saregum user here too... I use disposable epoxy brushes since I have those lying around from making fishing lures...

        I use the occasional solvent based glue - mostly on more upholstery pieces. I think the solvent based works better with attaching leather to foam. Hate the smell and the headache that comes so easily. I have pictures, but the project is still bit of a secret, I promise to show pics when I can.

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        • PeterNitz
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          Yes! Please post pics of your project in the SHOW YOUR WORK section when its not top secret anymore :-)

          I sometimes use solvent based glue as well when i need something to dry really quick and strong grip

      • #8
        Hi there, I use an italian water based glue called "aquagum" by Frabo Adesivi. I'm kinda ok with it but looking at some pics Peter dropped on Instagram Saregum glue looks more liquid and that's the reason why I'm really keen on trying it. Just need to finish out the liter I've left.

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        • PeterNitz
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          Saregum goes on almost like water which is great because it soaks in so you get good contact without having a thick glue layer between.

      • #9
        I use a synthetic rubber-based contact adhesive. I am looking for other options because this adhesive is toxic and highly flammable, but the most common in the Brazilian market.

        I apply this adhesive with a sturdy but flexible plastic bottle, I use it with the lid for applications in small areas and, for application in larger areas, I made an adaptation by fastening a piece of synthetic fabric (with more open weft) with a rubber band, which ensures a thin layer of glue. Some types of plastic can soften in contact with this product.

        I believe this is the most practical way of application, I do not like the result of application made with brush, besides being easier to maintain the cleaning.

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        • PeterNitz
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          Thats a great idea with the gauze! very clever. With a brush it can be a real pain in the ***

        • Vanessa Franco
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          Haha for sure !

      • #10
        The most I use Saregum, white glue or the stincky conact glue, a very strong one, depends on the item or area i want to glue, The white glue has the advantage to glue one side. For very big pannels it is easy as there is at least 5 minutes to ajust the layers and it also stiffens the leather a bit. The strong contact glue is used for edges especially when there is a lot of tention (like for machine sewing some kind of gussets).
        For the white glue i have two kinds, one i use for leather only and another that i can use for fabric too. These are no international known brands , but made in Belgium as we have a specialised glue company here FOURNY. If you send them samples of what to glue, they will test for you.

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        • #11
          I’m using Aquilim GL and spread it using a small silicone kitchen spatula. The GL has a much longer open time than their 315.

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          • #12
            I'm using Aquilim 315 for a while.
            For heavy duty gluing, like lining, I still have a a can of Bostik 1513 but I don't use it very often. But if you need to stick something as hell, try this one.

            To apply, I use a squeeze bottle and an old plastic card which I cut as a spatula.

            A nice trick is a bottle of Pentel glue roller which I filled with Aquilim. It's great to apply a stripe of glue to the edges !

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            • #13
              I used to use Barge but it’s very harmful and have since switched to Eco-Flo weld. I have found it works better in every application and stands up quicker for bonding. The bonds are stronger as well, along with zero fumes. I know when I glue up liners it is over powering with barge. The downside is cost but for my health it’s worth the extra cost.

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              • form_leather
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                No joke. I bought a chemical-grade mask to apply the Barge, but after this thread I'll try out the Saregum!

            • #14
              I use the kristal bay super transparent .. it does not dry quickly, in fact you have to leave it even a few minutes ... obviously it is applied on both sides to stick or else it does not take.and the good thing is that it does not stain, even if it ends on Once dried skin just pass the fingers over a couple of times and comes away like a film. It has a really strong smell though...

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              • PeterNitz
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                hmm..never heard of this brand before. If it has a really strong smell the its probably toxic. See if you can find a water based contact glue. I think you will like it better!

            • #15
              Quick tip to anyone using solvent based glue: go to your local hardware store and buy a good respirator. They’re not very expensive (around thirty dollars.) Your lungs and brain cells will thank you for it.

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              • jetalla’aneiu
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                Also What is working for me : Put a medium fan beside you, front side will help your edge paint or glue dry faster, the back side working as an exhaust fan, it will help reduce the strong smell being inhaled.

              • Martine
                Martine commented
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                Good idea Anne, will try that too !
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